The media business is tough: Entrepreneurs must navigate fierce competition, fickle tastes, and an audience that expects content to be free. Despite all this, Jason Yanowitz believes he has figured out how to build a profitable media business around the niche of crypto, even at a time when leading rivals have stumbled.

He says the firm he cofounded, Blockworks, is pursuing a growth strategy that is on track to pull in over $30 million in revenue this year, while adding a new business line of selling data in addition to its existing ones of news, events, research, consulting, and podcasts. Since it was founded in 2017, Blockworks has been profitable every year but one.

A natural salesman, Yanowitz touts the integrity of the Blockworks brand, though at times it combines journalism and sales operations in a way frowned upon by traditional media outlets. But even as some may have qualms about its journalistic principles, few would dispute Blockworks is riding high right now—and that it is fast becoming the dominant brand in crypto media.

Like other founders in the industry, Yanowitz’s ties to crypto are personal. While living in Eastern Europe in 2015, he spent time with Hungarian friends whose parents had seen their savings destroyed by government misrule, and become enamored with the idea of a self-sovereign currency: Bitcoin.

While the appeal of Bitcoin was intuitive in Eastern Europe, Yanowitz discovered this was not the case when he returned to the U.S. Working as a venture capitalist, he sought to sell the ideals of crypto to institutions. It did not go well. “I got laughed out of the room every time I brought up crypto,” he recalls.

At this juncture, he says he realized that, if the traditional finance world was going to take crypto seriously, he needed to build a media brand that felt familiar to those that Wall Street knew already. Yanowitz then launched Blockworks with cofounder Mike Ippolito, beginning with conferences where bankers and crypto entrepreneurs could meet on the same level.

The business got off to a promising start, but after the pandemic decimated Blockworks’ revenue by 82%, the founders moved to diversify with podcasts. The decision paid off as Yanowitz says the company’s roster of podcasts notched 21 million downloads last year, and became part of a larger flywheel of crypto-focused events, research, and a news website. He boasts Blockworks doesn’t spend a dime on marketing and has “reverse CAC” (an acronym for customer acquisition costs).

Some of Blockworks’ journalistic choices, though, raise eyebrows. Those include charging speakers to appear onstage at its conferences: A rate card viewed by Fortune shows that speaking slots range from around $20,000 to appear on a panel to over $100,000 to be the exclusive guest at a fireside chat. While such arrangements are not unheard of in some corners of the media industry, they go against traditional norms since they give rise to conflict of interest concerns, and are derided by some as “pay to play.”